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这些裁判之间看上去没有什么共识...

Sometimes editors will undo a change, justifying their revert merely by saying that there is "no consensus" for the change. Ask yourself: will preserving "consensus" be best for the editors and the readers? If you believe so, slow down, reread talk, verify sources and pause before acting. Genuine consent is freely given, while no consensus can be a take. 有时候编辑者们会撤销一项更改并仅仅用“无共识”来解释这一撤销。问问你自己:维持现状对编者和读者是最好的吗?如果你相信如此,慢慢来,重读一遍讨论,查证来源,在着手行动之前先暂停一下。真正的共识是自由产生的,而无共识也是可以被接受的。

别做反对更新页面的人

撤销更改的行为挫伤了人们大胆的贡献热情,这种热情对建设维基百科是必须的。要意识到,修改、回退、讨论循环有时什么也带不来。这是一种修改、回退、讨论循环的滥用。有些人可能会用编辑摘要来让那些大胆的编辑者“先讨论”。可是讨论需要至少两派。想想一个人进行了一次编辑,他/她完全准备好进行必要的讨论,有充分的来源和合理的理由,针对于文章的薄弱之处。这时,一个“先讨论”却没有任何讨论页行动的回退既没有帮助,也没有建设性和信息量。避免这样做。当然,应对故意破坏者和meta:troll除外。

真正开始并贡献讨论

By intense stonewalling, Jackson helped the good guys win the war between the states, right?

Reverting on a "no consensus base" without any further info tries to avoid any discussion. It's one of the strategies of Wikipedia:Status quo stonewalling. After all, if one reverted the edit already shows that there is no consensus. But when authors neglect to explain why they personally disagree with the edit or where the consensus in question was concluded, they haven't given people a handle on how to build any new consensus that is desired to enhance WP's articles and their individual quality.

Reach out

Make her happy and ring her bell, the Wikipedia generic Commons needs innovation, transhumance instead of standstill

Handles to build consensus are needed by both sides of the debate. If you can't point out an underlying problem with an edit, there is no reason to immediately revert it. Revert only when necessary. If you just have a bad gut feeling about the edit, try to put appropriate quality tags and put some questions at the talk page. Involve portals and experienced authors. Finally, there may in fact exist silent consensus to keep the change. Consensus is not unanimity, and is thus not canceled by one editor's objection. Furthermore, if an edit really breaks certain established consensus, you should be able to refer to the discussion section, FAQ set, portal policy where this consensus was established. Edits to long-standing Wikipedia policies and guidelines may be reverted without much such notions - as in those cases the establishment of consensus needs no further proof. But note that Wikipedia:CCC - consensus can change - applies there as well. That said, it's the responsibility of the reverter to show and prove the consensus in question. One might as well ask editors which had an intense discussion on a certain aspect to mark and summarize the reached consensus formally. Wikipedia lacks tools to identify milestones of an articles development and neither has sufficient templates nor pointers for talk pages.

请对新内容和新观点友善

Wikipedia should encourage contributors and atttract new contributors to be bold in editing articles. Experienced authors may however tend to defends articles as their personal turf and may be under a Semmelweis reflex against innovation and new perspectives. Don't protect Wikipedia against new content and don't be anxious if other authors seem to have found evidence you not had heard of before. That might happen. Scientific knowledge and knowledge in general is exploding. Wikipedia should follow and welcome it, not exclude it. Reverting a bold contribution solely on the basis of "no consensus" is a sign that the reverter simply did not like the edit. Moreover, if one editor favors a new addition (i.e. its contributor), and another opposes it (i.e. the potential reverter), consensus is no closer to being against it than for it until more editors comment or edit, or until the two editors in question can move toward a compromise, preferably through editing.

想想你想要怎么办,并陈述它

It is best to first consider whether there is a substantive problem with the edit in question. Mention that. Tag it. If it added unsourced or poorly-sourced information, try to find said information yourself, or failing that, note that in the revert summary. If it made the presentation of material awkward, tag it. Edit to make the presentation less awkward. Question awkwardness on the talk page. If the bold edit added a biased statement among others less controversial, try to find a way to recast the bias into a neutral mode or just revert that aspect only. Avoid Overzealous deletions. If it added instructions on how to do something, explain that Wikipedia is not a manual. If it removed content with no explanation or an unconvincing one, note that you are restoring valid content, and why the explanation is unconvincing (if the edit summary box is too small for this, continue on the talk page).

一般地,对有争议的或大的更改怎么做

If you feel that an edit should not stand, but you can't point to any specific reason, stop and think before you act. Just never make any edit without a reason.

  1. Stop. Think. Look at the talk page or the edit summary, check whether the edit has a reasonable rationale and quality sources.
  2. Note your concerns and think about which tags or questions describe them best.
  3. Edit the page to tag questionable edits or change them appropriately.
  4. Provide your rationale and your doubts and questions in edit summaries on the talk page.
  5. If you really cannot find a way to incorporate the edit, revert it. Boldly.
  6. Explain why. At least in the summary. Even if the reason seems obvious to you, it will not always be obvious to someone else.

Stay friendly. Wikipedia should stay a comedy of the commons. Life is hard enough.

特别地

如果你觉得一项更改益处多于害处,永远不要去撤销它。即使你确信会有其他人反对,只要你觉得这项更改有益,你也不应该去撤销。让反对它的编者们自己去撤销,这样原贡献者才能知道究竟是谁在反对,才能知道应该和谁进行讨论。